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![]() Send message Joined: 10 Dec 12 Posts: 324 |
Would those that are anti Monarchy and would prefer to live in a Republic, please declare their hands publicly now. Every one of you. Why? |
![]() Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2106 ![]() |
Sorry guys, the three of you will have to wait until tomorrow. Been around for far too long to jump to that sort of provocation. Enjoy your evening :-)Ah your "standard" leaving excuse. No provocation from me, just stating facts or are you calling the members of the All Party Parliamentary Fire Safety & Rescue Group liars & Agents Provocateurs? Source FYI that info was provided to Master Williams in his role of Minster in that department in March 2014 during the "happy days" of the Tory - Lib Dem" coalition. Nice job you did boys. |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 14 Posts: 719 ![]() |
FYI that info was provided to Master Williams in his role of Minster in that department in March 2014 during the "happy days" of the Tory - Lib Dem" coalition. Nice job you did boys. Rather have that coilition back in power now than that bum licker May thanks , least the Lib Dems sorta kept the Conservatives " honest " but anythings better than Comrade Corbyn and his bleeding heart liberal lefty supporters , bugg#rin the country up again !! |
![]() Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2106 ![]() |
Nope, they were spoilt little brats, throwing tantrums because the king wouldn't lend them the keys to the kingdom. The king didn't give them the keys because they were stuck too far up the rectum of the EU. :-) |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 14 Posts: 719 ![]() |
That's true enough ;-) but least wern't so much of a " clucking fuddle " it is now |
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I take it that those who do not declare themselves a patriotic subject of the British empire shall have their views and opinions on the election, and the subsequent matters that come as a result of it, dismissed? |
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Would those that are anti Monarchy and would prefer to live in a Republic, please declare their hands publicly now. Every one of you.It sounds like you intend upon setting up an enemies list. Should the authorities be informed when it appears a person is setting up an enemies list? |
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The State opening of Parliament is one of the greatest events in the life of the United Kingdom, and incorporates the quite proper display of the very symbols of office, worn or not, of the British Monarchy, as has been done by tradition over centuries. And I will not stand by and see that denigrated by anybody. It is at moments such as these, that I'm reminded of this, Sir: An Englishman, Irishman, Welshman, and Scotsman were captured while fighting in a far-off foreign land, and the leader of the captors said, 'We're going to line you up in front of a firing squad and shoot you all in turn. But first, you each can make a final wish.' There is nothing quite like the pomposity and circumstance of an Englishman in full roar, is there Mr S. For some moments during this thread - I confess to the belief we were witnessing a new you. Too much sun and not enough hat on my head during my absence no doubt ;-) and i would really love to see you say that to my faceSo you keep saying, Sir. Both your quote, Mr Stevenson, and the one that follows below: Would those that are anti Monarchy and would prefer to live in a Republic, please declare their hands publicly now. Every one of you. ...beg the question : "so you can do what?" Now that is provocative. tensions regarding GibraltarThat we have little confidence in the competency of those doing the negotiating, goes without saying, and I am not referencing those who may or may not be paying your Island a visit in the near future, Mr S. I trust things will improve? |
![]() Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2106 ![]() |
The State opening of Parliament is one of the greatest events in the life of the United Kingdom, and incorporates the quite proper display of the very symbols of office, worn or not, of the British Monarchy, as has been done by tradition over centuries. And I will not stand by and see that denigrated by anybody.Better put pen to paper & have a go at this guy then |
![]() Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2106 ![]() |
Herein lies your biggest problem as the bulk of your post confirms. I'm quite happy to say that I support the current government (with caveats) and the Monarchy as well.You have great difficultly in separating government & monarchy. All I see on the boards are people providing their opinions about politicians & their decisions. I cannot recall seeing where that can be construed as anti-monarchy. Because you were asked nicely, so we all know where people stand? If you would rather ditch the Monarchy then at least have the courage to say so.As above. The result of putting the people before the party.As opposed to putting party 1st? Let's look where that got the country... Refusal to implement fire safety changes & what it has now cost the country. £8.6 million for refurbishing Grenfell Tower. £10 million to purchase apartments to rehouse survivors. (Possibly) 2 million or more to have those apartments fitted. £5 million to survivors. (Approx) £10 million to demolish & rebuild. Now lets at the other costs. 100's of lives ruined or affected for many years to come & the (more than likely) loss of man hours. The overall cost of the manpower involved in the incident. Funeral costs. Overall an estimated cost of £50,000,000. What it should have been: - £5000: The difference between the PE & FR cladding. £200,000 - 300,000 to retrofit sprinklers. No doubt the anti-monarchists here will rejoice at the Daily Mail front page this morning, probably frame a copy for the wall.As above. You are all free to have the opinions that you want, and I certainly have no intention of trying to change them, and also I can see no reason why I should waste my time in trying to defend mine against you. Trying to have sensible conversations with you lot is like talking to a brick wall, about as much fun as watching paint dry. Enjoy your little club, in the words of Sam Goldwyn, you may include me out.Yes we are & the majority of us realise that others can have their opinions without seeing senseless labelling because of an individual's failure to realise their fault & their inability to separate Monarchy from parliament - They are two separate entities. As for taking a pop at politicians, we are entitled to. After all they are the ones "begging" us for their votes every few years to put them in power to run the country NOT put party 1st. As for party 1st? Laughable as for the past several years all the electorate has heard is I not we. What I would love to see is the 4 ministers involved in the fire safety issue be put on Question Time & given an intensive grilling. Would we see political bovine excrement or would we see some empathy? |
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Yesterday the PM had to apologise in the Commons for his Council's failings. As PM she effectively has a sign on the desk saying the buck stops here. He should have gone days ago, his position was untenable. Incorrect, at least get your facts correct. The CEO has resigned. The double barrelled snob at the top is still there. Source "Nicholas Paget-Brown, the leader of the council, said it was with "regret" that he had accepted Mr Holgate's resignation." What was that about "The buck stops here"? |
![]() Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2106 ![]() |
Normally, I would have no choice but to agree, unfortunately I cannot. Here's why: The government(Taxpayers) have paid £10,000,000 for those flats. WHY hasn't the RBK&C bought them as they have a £42,000,000 surplus? Edit & the government has handed them over to RBK&C - pretty free with our money don't you think? |
![]() Send message Joined: 12 Jul 14 Posts: 656 ![]() |
if it's an enemies of the State list Oh... well there you go, and I thought this was a democracy where free speech was at least tolerated, but there I am... a number two *waft self upwind* ;) |
Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5142 ![]() |
Since it mentions Paget-Brown by name, I think it's time for a re-post of the letter from a resident of R B K & C. My local tax rebate is blood money |
![]() Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2106 ![]() |
if it's an enemies of the State list It's only free when we can be persuaded to vote for the right party :-) |
Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5142 ![]() |
I thought this was a democracy ...Has anybody else thought of re-establishing the GLC, so that there is democratic control over matters applicable to all London boroughs? |
![]() Send message Joined: 12 Jun 09 Posts: 2106 ![]() |
I would think that many locally Tory controlled London Councils would have a word to say about a new GLC! And who was the leader for many years? Red Ken!I would have thought that an all party parliamentary group run it, but alas, as already evidenced, those type of groups are not listened to. |
Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5142 ![]() |
And the part I've emphasised has led to the situation we're discussing today.The Greater London Council (GLC) was the top-tier local government administrative body for Greater London from 1965 to 1986. It replaced the earlier London County Council (LCC) which had covered a much smaller area. The GLC was dissolved in 1986 by the Local Government Act 1985 and its powers were devolved to the London boroughs and other entities. A new administrative body, known as the Greater London Authority (GLA), was established in 2000.I would think that many locally Tory controlled London Councils would have a word to say about a new GLC! And who was the leader for many years? Red Ken! If London wishes to vote for Red Ken, then London should be able to vote for Red Ken. That's democracy. |
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The government(Taxpayers) have paid £10,000,000 for those flats. WHY hasn't the RBK&C bought them as they have a £42,000,000 surplus? & the government has handed them over to RBK&C - pretty free with our money don't you think? You did state that we are all free to voice our opinions did you not? Don't you have any free will? Asking you a question as your a long standing taxpayer has nothing to do with local or national government. |
Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5142 ![]() |
I've been listening to the statement made by Theresa May in the House of Commons, and the questions she was asked and (barely) answered - enquiry this, investigation that, testing the other. The biggest question seems to be whether flammable cladding was permitted under building regulations. If if was forbidden, then an awful lot of builders and building inspectors will be passing through the courts in the coming months and years. If it was (and still is) permitted, then the Houses of Parliament should be spending their time passing a one-clause bill 'for the avoidance of doubt' saying that no flammable panel should be attached to a building higher than xx metres after, say, 12 noon today. |
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